Ike Turner: Im not listening to anything right now. I get confused when I start recording, and I listen to too much other stuff, and I be thinkin Im creating something and its something I heard.
Pinetop Perkins: The Blues Channel on cable, and the blues show on KUT in Austin. We called them up because they werent playing enough Pinetop. (Pinetop goes to clubs almost every night.)
EM: What was the first record you ever bought?
Ike: Charles Brown--no, youre taking me back 60 or 65 years. That would have to be Louis Jordan, Caldonia.
PP: Muddy Waters. I dont care so much for rock blues.
EM: Where do you buy your music?
Ike: I dont buy anything.
PP: Any of them that have some good stuff.
EM: Whats your favorite album of all time?
Ike: I have two. The Who Who Are You and the Beach Boys Good Vibrations. And Whatd I Say, Ray Charles. Im really into country music a lot. I was born in Mississippi. I play country at my shows. You come to see my show, and we do 20-something songs, maybe three and a half minutes. I may start with boogie-woogie, or blues.
PP: Live at 85! with George Kilby, Jr.
EM: What was the first instrument you played?
Ike: Piano. I was taught by Pinetop Perkins. I love him to death.
PP: Guitar, then bass.
EM: What brought you to the instrument you now play?
Ike: I picked up guitar somewhere in the 50s. It was hard to find guitar players and when I got one, and Id teach him from piano what I want him to play, and by the time hed learn to play it, hed get good, and sounding better, and hed leave. I met a girl who played piano, church piano, and I taught her to play the blues, and I took up guitar.
PP: I started playing piano at about 12 or 13. I couldnt chord the guitar after she stabbed me. My hand was hanging down, and my arm was too short when it healed up. Yeah, I used to teach Ike Turner piano, I liked it. Hes been good to me.
EM: What musician influenced you most?
Ike: Louis Jordan.
PP: I like all them good musicians, I like them playing good. I like boogie-woogie. There werent people teaching me, I learned it off records, Pinetop Smith, I loved what he did. Ive played with so many different ones, I just forget the names.
EM: Who would you like to write with that you havent?
Ike: Babyface
PP: I dont write. I got as high as third grade in school.
EM: What was the song or event that made you realize you wanted to be in music?
Ike: I was coming home from school and I heard this band. It was Pinetop and Sonny Boy Williamson. I had never noticed the piano in church or nothin before, and they were rehearsing at Ernest Lanes fathers house. I heard all this noise comin out of this house, and I looked in through the window. I went home and said Mama, I want a piano. She said If you bring me good grades in school. And when I came home to show her my report card, she already had it. Taking lessons from a teacher was too slow for me, A.B.C.D.E, but Pinetop would show me boop-a-doop, boogie-woogie. Mama would ask what I learned from the teacher and Id go boop-adoopa, and shed say Listen to my son!
PP: I realized when I was real young, comin up.
EM: Who would you like in your rock and roll heaven band?
Ike: I like Elton John, and the Stones. Seth Blumberg on guitar, Armando Cepeda on bass, on keyboard, I want Paul Smith and Ernest Lane, because thats who I have. Drums, Alan Krigger, Mike Johnson on horn.
PP: On guitar, John Lee Hooker, maybe one of the young guys like John Mayer; on drums, Willie Big Eyes Smith; on bass, I can think of two or three, maybe Calvin Jones, and I guy I work with now, Mike Merritt, could be him. On harmonica, Sonny Boy Williamson II, I worked with him on the King Biscuit radio program with him, and on horns, Tim Clark and Donnie Castellow, from George Kilby Jr.s band the Coolerators.
EM: Whats your desert island CD?
Ike: Oh, man. It probably would be something by either Ray Charles or Louis Jordan.
PP: Take My Hand Precious Lord, and Lead Me On, and Reverend Robert Wilkins Glory, Glory Hallelujah.
Pinetop again returned to Helena, Arkansas this fall for his annual homecoming party. Elmore asked him how many people he invited, and he said As many as I can. Good plan, Joe Willie.